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 Post subject: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:17 pm 
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Well, fudge!!!

i went to take off my hitch today, to instlal my rear skid, and in the process broke all 6 ( one was broken when they installed it) bolts that hold up the hitch!!!

after several hours of drilling out cetners of bolts i got 3 centers drilled, 3 marked, and only one of them clsoe to being removed

FUCK!!!

this means no rear recovery point for me anymore!

so now ( because i defintely dont have the tools to do this) i have to find a shop that can remove those bolts..

any recommendation?

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:58 pm 
you broke all 6 off!! did you use penetrating oil or heat? thats like a new jeep right? after you broke 2 off you had to know whatever it was you did isn't working.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:01 pm 
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after 2 were broke that was 50% of the total bolts already busted.. one was already broken by the company that put on the hitch 2 years ago.. at that point the theory was that it had to come off anyway.. tried pene oil and didnt have heat..

this is a unibody frame with no access to the back of the bolt.. so heating it up would have only heated the head..

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:04 pm 
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you broke all 6 off!! did you use penetrating oil or heat? thats like a new jeep right? after you broke 2 off you had to know whatever it was you did isn't working.

lmao It's not righty loosey scooter! JK, Get a bolt out kit. I paid like $75for mine, but thats from Mac tools. you can probably get one for 30-40 at napa or vatozone or something! that, or drill them all out, and re-tap.


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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:32 am 
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like phil said drill em out, go buy some nut zerts and it will solve the problem. They simply slide into the hole you drilled out and spread as you tighten them. It's what they use on the tranny crossmembers so it should work for a hitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:43 am 
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well i contacted RMC in ossian/kingsland and described what happened.
they said that they see this all the time and it should take them about an hour to get them all out..

so ill take it to them andif nothing else let them ruin thier own bits.. then do the nutzert thing..

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:35 pm 
just my 2 cents, but id try to stay away from nutzerts whenever possible. They tend to break loose in the frame, and you end up not being able to remove the bolt because it just free spins the nutzert. Ask most who have had to remove a skid on a tj. The factory nutzerts almost always break loose and you cant get the bolts out very easy. Happened to me. I suggest welding a nut in place


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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:59 pm 
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I will agree that the nutzerts break loose when you are trying to take them out, but if you are putting a hitch in you probably don't really plan on taking it off so it shouldn't be a big deal. The nutzerts are plenty strong as long as you don't have to take them back out.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:55 pm 
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i personally think you can just use some zipties or speaker wire to reinstall the hitch after all it is a libby so the breaking strength of the zip ties are prob at least 2 times what the libby motor puts out hehehe :booty:

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xjtrey wrote:
i personally think you can just use some zipties or speaker wire to reinstall the hitch after all it is a libby so the breaking strength of the zip ties are prob at least 2 times what the libby motor puts out hehehe :booty:

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
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tellozzy wrote:
lmao
xjtrey wrote:
i personally think you can just use some zipties or speaker wire to reinstall the hitch after all it is a libby so the breaking strength of the zip ties are prob at least 2 times what the libby motor puts out hehehe :booty:


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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:40 pm 
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well i dropped it off at RMC.... hopefully this goes well

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Just spoke to RMC. as of right now he has 5 of the 6 bolts out. hes having problems with one of them i guess. so im considering this a victory.

dont know about $ yet though....

*scared look*

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
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$207

not bad...

crisis over.

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
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Now get that shit over here and lets put your gas tank skid on...

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:19 pm 
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they did it for me! lol and the hitch! im now fully skidded...

i bought a jar of antisieze and plan to pull all my bolts out and lube em...

dont want to break anymore off.

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ahhh..anti sieze..the gift that keeps on giving! good deal though man

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:11 pm 
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they did it for me! lol and the hitch! im meow fully skidded...

i bought a jar of antisieze and plan to pull all my bolts out and lube em...

dont want to break anymore off.

Remember, LEFTY loosey! for $200, I would have done all that for ya!


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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:12 pm 
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yes yes lefty loosey.. and the metal part of the screw driver goes towards the screw.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:24 pm 
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ahhh..anti sieze..the gift that keeps on giving! good deal though man

lol

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:39 pm 
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so i call the guy that fixed my bolts.. and asked him if there were any specific reason why i shouldnt remove those bolts one at a time and put antisieze on them..
he reccomended against it on the basis that since this is for a hitch.. and the manufacturers bolts came with loctite on them. that putting antisieze may lead to the hitch loosening itself..

though he ended the call saying that i could do what i want..


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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
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why would ya need to take them back out?

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:08 pm 
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if i need to fix the tank, or skid, or hitch..

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:11 pm 
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i personally agree id leave them alone and let the loctite do there job...but its youre choice

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 Post subject: Re: Hitch worse case scenario
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:13 pm 
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oh i forgot to post here..

i asked on the KJ forum. and the two big technical guys said that putting loctite on torque specced bolts is a BAD idea..

skids yes, hitch no..


so im going to listen to yall and not antiseize those..

thanks!

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 Post Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:26 pm 
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If I'm not mistaken, the Loctite will also (somewhat) do what anti-seize does as far as preventing rust-weld. You should be ok. :)

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