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 Post subject: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 4:28 pm 
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Im thinking of fabbing my own skids...

but,,,,

I have no way of bending steel.

is there someoen here that has a brake i could come use?

and maybe a torch to cut out access holes on on of the sheets to get to oil drain plug and such?

Im just doing homework on this at this point. trying to plot and to plan..

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:26 pm 
vise
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vise grips

that should do it. lol


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:30 pm 
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well thats an answer!!! thanks ill try that.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:35 pm 
just saying man, everything i do is on a budget. i found this is the easiest way to do it and i dont have to pay anyone, it would be nice if someone on the forum did have one tho.


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:39 pm 
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oh believe me!!! i know all about budget!

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:33 pm 
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yeah im thinkin there are a lot of tools around this board for use but no brakes that i have seen.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:01 am 
I don't think the vice/2x4/vice grip method will work for plate heavy enough for skids. My neighbor owns a sheet metal business, and when I saw his shop, I had to hide my hardon! He has a 60 ton, 18 foot press brake! :eek2: He has told me I can come use stuff, but I haven't yet. :acclaim:


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:12 am 
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most of the high end skids that are for sale for KJs are 3/8" for the sake of budget and malleability im thinking about doing .188 but i wont know for sure until i have a piece of that in hand to decide if its thick enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:51 am 
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I have bent pretty big stuff using a shop press, heavy gauge steel as a guide and heat it with a torch and bend it...not pretty but can be done and made pretty...

i dont know anyone with a brake big enough to bend 3/8...

Branik has a brake that will bend smaller gauge sheet steel and aluminum, but not 3/8...

mac 'sometimes its worth it just buy em' gyvr

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:55 am 
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i dont reallyt hink i want or need 3/8" to be honest.. i was just referencing that because its "what the big boys run"

thats why i really think the .188 will be enough to protect me from a good hit.. I might also ask around and see if i can aquire a couple decomissioned road signs.. those shouldbe strong enough from what ive heard..

still exploring options right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:56 am 
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geekyjeep wrote:
i dont reallyt hink i want or need 3/8" to be honest.. i was just referencing that because its "what the big boys run"

thats why i really think the .188 will be enough to protect me from a good hit.. I might also ask around and see if i can aquire a couple decomissioned road signs.. those shouldbe strong enough from what ive heard..

still exploring options right meow.



na. not even close in my opinion. that stuff is pretty weak. when ya can grab it and bend it in half with your hands its not strong enough for skids.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am 
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so, whaddya reccomend..

skid rows for the libby run in the 250-300 range for just one piece of 4..

mopars are $300 for the set. but are quite anemic.
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keep in mind thats a KK not a KJ mine has the gas tank at the bac, no spare tire underneath and the exhaust runs on the passenger side.

this is what id liek to do..
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i have yet to get it up in the air and check angles and look for moutn points or take measurements.. but right now im just trying to figure out how to do the hardest part.. which is bend the steel.

then ill look at costs..

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
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I'd have to agree with Paps, .188 is pretty thin. It could be done though, with some ribbing or carefully planned stiffeners, (1 x 1 angle iron welded layed flat on the top side, where space permits). If you look at the the pics posted above you can see that the thinner steel they used has a lot of ribbing stamped into it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:18 pm 
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done some homework.. ( seriously i do research this stuff) 3/16" = .1875 ( lets call it .188)

now everyone say DUH..


now..

skidrow makes these

http://www.skidplates.com/Front_02_KJ.asp

which are similar to what i want to make but more expensive than i can afford now.

those are 3/16 with what looks like a 1.5" bent lip all around..

if you think that 3/16 isnt enough.. and doing 1" or maybe even 1/2" angle iron as reinforcement is enough i wouldnt even need to do the bends.. i could just use the angle iron as reinforcements..

i have a welder and grinder/cutoff so as long as i have the general shape made i can do teh welding myself..

hmmmm

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
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geekyjeep wrote:
done some homework.. ( seriously i do research this stuff) 3/16" = .1875 ( lets call it .188)

meow everyone say DUH..


meow..

skidrow makes these

http://www.skidplates.com/Front_02_KJ.asp

which are similar to what i want to make but more expensive than i can afford meow.

those are 3/16 with what looks like a 1.5" bent lip all around..

if you think that 3/16 isnt enough.. and doing 1" or maybe even 1/2" angle iron as reinforcement is enough i wouldnt even need to do the bends.. i could just use the angle iron as reinforcements..

i have a welder and grinder/cutoff so as long as i have the general shape made i can do teh welding myself..

hmmmm



i would say 3/16 would be fine. street signs are not that thick tho. they be thin and weak. i am building very slowlymy own rock rails for my JK. it be 3/16 steel diamond plate. :o

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:24 pm 
PapsOldDually wrote:

street signs are not that thick tho. they be thin and weak.

agree plus, most street signs are aluminum.


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:26 pm 
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i had heard mention on the KJ forums of guys getting ahold of street signs ( legally) and using them.. because theyre cheap easy large sheets of aluminum.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:59 pm 
Perhaps, but they would be more for show than function! They might save you from that nasty parking block at the mall!


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:51 am 
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Fort Wayne Fabrication on Freeman st. . They are in the phone book. I'd bet they would not have a problem with your material.

Don't know what the cost would be. I had a piece of 1/2 aluminum that I had 2 bends made. They charged me $25.

I would just have your shit together when you go in. Call them first to make sure they would have time.

I would make cardbord templates so you have the angles and mounting holes. Then go to c henrey and get your plate, cut it to size and then go get it bent. FWF can also punch holes as well...


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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
 Post Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:26 pm 
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excellent.. i thihnk this weekend ill spend osme time on my back with soem cardboard.

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 Post subject: Re: Sheet Steel Bending
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philbert001 wrote:
.....60 ton, 18 foot press brake!


this


alot of larger fab/milright shops will have equipment that can do what you need.
I know of atleast two places in Kokomo that can bend up to atleast 1", and I'm sure that Ft. Wayne has to have more than that..

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