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the slow resurrection of old blue
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Author:  01blackout [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:49 am ]
Post subject:  the slow resurrection of old blue

this is going to be a slow build but as many know i bought philberts old blue cherokee currently just a roller with only thing left to get is a tranny here are some pics of it when i picked it up
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and here are some with the new tires and wheels
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and thats all for now with many more to come next step is to get the drive train in and running

Author:  kennedy [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:26 pm ]
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Author:  macgyvr [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:45 pm ]
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What are you trying to put into it for a wiring harness and a drivetrain.

There is a difference at 90 and below and 91+

You're asking about 90 and below wiring harness and then asking about 91+ transmissions.

If that jeep is a pre 91, then you need that year wiring harness, with a motor of same year and a trans of same vintage. Among other things the transmissions have different wiring along that same split. They are also a 21 spline output on pre 91 and 23 spline on post 91...the tcases follow the same rules with a 21 spline input and 23 spline input depending on the year.

My understand is that the 95/96 Transmissions use the same wiring harness plug but they are different from the 91 to 94...at this point I can't confirm that info.

mac 'just can't use anything' gyvr

Author:  01blackout [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:22 am ]
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Well i've got the stock 4.0 out of the 90 but wiring harness for a manual tranny and the jeep came stock with a auto so I need a auto wiring harness but I was told that the 91 up tranny will fit but from what your telling me that they will not correct?
List of parts I need
Motor mounts
wiring harness for auto
tranny control module
auto tranny
radiator and shroud

Author:  macgyvr [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 am ]
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There are a ton of connectors that are different at the 90/91 split

If its a 90 and down body, you will definately be better off with the same year wiring. I suppose you could use the 91 transmission, but you will probably be splicing wires, cause I don't believe that the connectors are the same. You'd be better off with a 90 down transmission.

If you mix and match too much you are going to have issues.

You will be better off with as much 90 and down stuff as you can.

mac 'good luck' gyvr

Author:  01blackout [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:45 am ]
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So the wiring harness will work but I need to look for a 90 down transmission?

Author:  macgyvr [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:56 am ]
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that would be the best plan of attack...as well as a 90 and down tcase

mac 'will make life a lot simpler' gyvr

Author:  01blackout [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:22 pm ]
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Well I got the stock t case but thanks for the info that will def help me out
01"know tj's don't know crap bout xj's"blackout

Author:  macgyvr [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:04 pm ]
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if you have the stock 90 tcase you definately want a 90 and down transmission. the input on the tcase is 21 spline of that era as well as the trannys output 21 spline. 91 and up are 23 spline inputs for the tcase, and 23 spline output on the transmissions and won't work.

mac 'lives and breaths xjs' gyvr

Author:  Alpine [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:28 pm ]
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If you end up with a 23-spline T-case, and you need to turn it into a 21-spline T-case, I have the right input gear for it.

Author:  01blackout [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:40 pm ]
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If I end up with a 23 couldn't I just use a 91up transmission?

Author:  macgyvr [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:39 pm ]
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sure but the wiring harness is going to be a mess...

i think that it uses a different computer from the 91 split

mac 'feel like im repeating myself' gyvr

Author:  01blackout [ Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:36 am ]
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Lol ik sorry i'm just trying to go the cheapest route I can with least amount of work

Author:  01blackout [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:50 am ]
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Here it is with no motor
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here it is with motor all left to do is to get some bolts for the flex plate and I can install t. Tranny and t care
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Author:  01blackout [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:36 pm ]
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So i cut and folded my front fenders for a little more clearence and been piecing the motor and assesories here is a quick pic

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And i also added a rough country extended rear brake line
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