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This is enough of an ongoing project, and when I finally get a receiver and a trailer, it will be the hauler, as well.
I might as well share it. :)

This is our Van, the day we got it.

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Our van has two forms. The first thing we did to it was remove the 1st and 4th row benches. With rows 2 and 3, we can haul 8 people and tons of stuff. None of that is picture worthy, however.

In its other form, it is a camper. Once we get a receiver and a small trailer, we will be able to travel and wheel much more often.

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Our camp site at All Good Music Festival 13.

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Camp at Lockn Music Festival 13

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The Hoff!

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kennedy wrote:
The Hoff!


True story:

We got that before All Good, to set up by our site so that people walking by could get a laugh, and we could feel like we brightened their day. At All Good we had a fairly low traffic site, and set up the Hoff in a horrible place. Only a fraction of the passers-by even saw it. I think we had 'maybe' 5 people take a picture with it.

At Lockn, we had an EXTREMELY high traffic spot, and nearly everyone who walked, drove, shuttled, or stumbled past got a laugh. I couldn't even count how many people were posing for pictures with it. At one point on one of the days, there was a line of three couples who were waiting to get a picture with him.

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Awesome.
I need to get one... lol

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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Jeepin Camp Out 13:

Although the party was at Blue's site, so more or less I just slept and cooked here, but this gives an idea of how we use the canopies and some sheets/tapestries for privacy.

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More pictures of the inside:

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This is the entire bed, divider, and kitchen, stored at the barn while the two rows are in the van.
The two rows take up the same space, with one flipped up on top of the other, when the camper stuff is in the van.

The seats in this picture are rows 1 and 4, which as far as I am concerned will NEVER go back in the van.

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for the seats that will never go back in the van, did you remove the brackets from the floor too?

My grandma has basically the same van, those brackets suck. Unsure why Ford ever got away from recessing the brackets into the floor so that you could have a flat open floor with the seats removed.

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
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kennedy wrote:
Awesome.
I need to get one... lol


When we got him, we had narrowed down our choices to this 'throned Hoff', Buddy the elf, or Sai (sp) Robertson of Duck Dynasty. (the old one)

It was close, but in the end it had to be the Hoff. :)

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kennedy wrote:
for the seats that will never go back in the van, did you remove the brackets from the floor too?

My grandma has basically the same van, those brackets suck. Unsure why Ford ever got away from recessing the brackets into the floor so that you could have a flat open floor with the seats removed.


The brackets from row 1 are out. I did put the bolts back in, since the holes go all the way through. I did it with the wrong bit, though, and warped my T50 to hell, then found out it is a 'ford special' tool required. The rug in the pictures is covering said bolts. I have planned to take it to the local stealership, and have them yoink the 4th row brackets out for me, I just haven't done it yet.

The chuck box in the camper setup pictures rests right between them well enough, but with the 4th row brackets gone, it could go to one side or the other, and allow room for larger items, like a cooler, that as of now takes up a lot of room behind the passenger seat.

We have a GoalZero Yeti 1250 and two Boulder 30 solar panels (seen above the cab in the all good pictures) that provides plenty of power, and we have a fridge/freezer we bring along to festivals for the food, etc. But drinks we generally keep in an ice chest/cooler. I would love to have room for the ice chest back beside the chuck box. It would make things so much better up front.

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I googled it... it is a "Torx Plus 55", from what I saw.

$8.29....
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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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Very interesting. Thank you. I'll have to hit up our Advanced Auto and see if they have one.

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has to be cheaper than the stealership!

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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"Unsure why Ford ever got away from recessing the brackets into the floor"

Somewhere there's a team of lawyers that can answer that....

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AMXtogo wrote:
"Unsure why Ford ever got away from recessing the brackets into the floor"

Somewhere there's a team of lawyers that can answer that....

:?

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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Finally order the TP55 bit.

Had to get it from ntxtools.com for 3.49 since the AA site didn't pass my script blockers.

After taking measurements and doing a quick search, the area of bed that I built is 61" x 72", and there is a "standard" RV mattress size called Short Queen that is 60" x 75", which is absolutely perfect. The 61" is side to side so we will have an inch to spare for sheets, blankets, whatever. And the 75" will simply hang over the foot of the bed area 3" which is no problem at all. The end is all open, and it wont take away from the space between the bed and the fridge. The pile of foam/thick comforters/sleeping bags that we had used last year for a "mattress" hung over at least that far anyway, except in a droopy, floppy mess. This will just be an extra 3" of mattress hanging past the end of the wood.

With the brackets out of the way in the rear, I can slide the kitchen to one side, and we can use the extra space for a cooler and tub of non refrigerated foodstuffs, saving more space up front. I'm hoping to build a simple and compact 'open closet' that will go in between the bed and driver's seat, against the wall as much as possible, that can be used to store extra shoes, and incorporate small 2'-3' hanger bar as far up and out of the way (toward the driver's side wall of the van) as possible, so that instead of the hanger bar we currently use, we can hang our clothes out of the way and not bash our head on the bar every time we lean over the fridge.

I'm working out a legless, fold out from the roof, bar and tarp awning we can quickly and easily fold out, drape and connect a tarp to, and enjoy, without the hassle and pain of legs, tie down strings, etc. I want something off the side, as well as something that can come off the rear end to cover the kitchen area.

I think that's it for an update there. Nothing done, just working out plans for this years updates, and thought I would share.

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I'm meeting with Mike Berry from Berry's welding to build a custom stronger reinforced hitch for the RV. If I remember, I'll ask him an approximate cost on a van hitch.

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That would be excellent. I would love to pull the Jeep to camping/wheeling events, or pull a small trailer to festivals.

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Jeeper4Life wrote:
Finally order the TP55 bit.

Had to get it from ntxtools.com for 3.49 since the AA site didn't pass my script blockers.


Couldn't just order it from the local AA store?

Have you seen this awning?
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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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Check out these options as well: http://www.camperize.com/awnings.html

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
A sweet lawn mower
Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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kennedy wrote:
Jeeper4Life wrote:
Finally order the TP55 bit.

Had to get it from ntxtools.com for 3.49 since the AA site didn't pass my script blockers.


Couldn't just order it from the local AA store?

Have you seen this awning?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037OC3E2/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0037OC3E2&linkCode=as2&tag=sw0a3-20


way too expensive.

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Check out these options as well: http://www.camperize.com/awnings.html


I've seen every one of those. The awning has always been a key part of my plans for the van. But we don't want to spend a ton of money on something that is only going to get used, optimistically, a dozen times a year.
This past year, we got by with easy-ups over top of the van in the middle and rear, that provided ample shade. But ultimately they are just not cutting it. I left one behind after the camp out in september, because it had rained so much, that it collected enough water to bend and break. So I am starting planning on something more sturdy, and hoping to make a few improvements.

Because of the nature of our needs primarily being music festivals, and because those kinds of events generally have similar site dimensions, we have a particular size and shape that we want to fit.
Because of our experience with uneven ground and having to walk around/between the legs of the easy-ups, I have a goal of making what I come up with legless, if possible.
Because we mount solar panels directly above the cab, we have to be careful what we shade and what we leave open.

We have plenty of tarps, tapestries, etc., so I am focusing on the frame, so to speak. In my head I see a strange looking roof rack that unfolds arms out, three unfolding twice off of the passenger side, and two unfolding just once off of the rear. A small bar is run between the two closest to the passenger tail light, and a single tarp is pulled over the whole thing and fastened to the end of each of the 5 'arms, and a couple key places along the roof on the drivers side of the van. In theory, at high noon, that should enable us to have 6-8' of shade over the rear of the van and along the passenger side up to and including the side door, stopping just at the seam between the front side door (my side door has two swing doors, not a slider) and the 'cab' passenger door. Above the cab this year was two 30w 'boulder' (goalzero) panels, but we're likely adding a third to that assembly, for 90 watts of nominal power. We have a goalzero 'yeti' inside that we use to keep the fridge around 35-38, which only takes a couple hours run time during the hottest hours of the day. The fridge/freezer we have holds its temp wonderfully, and the inside of the van is always shaded and cool, compared to the swelter going on out in the sun. My morning coffee (keurig mini), Juju's morning toast, and keeping various cell phones charged are really the only workload the yeti has besides running the fridge for an hour or two. Our 60w does wonderful, but we've had some close calls. adding another 30w panel should fix that.

True story: Our campsite at Lockn was literally against a high traffic lane made of pure dust. We were constantly wiping off chairs, tables, etc. Mid day on day 2, I was getting pretty frustrated about how much power we were using up. It was extremely hot and dry and Juju had been using a low watt fan most of the day already, when we were at camp. I noticed the sun was directly overhead, but we were getting shit for juice. When I climbed up to check the connections, and see if maybe one of the cables had come loose, either the one from the battery to panel a or the tie in between a and b, I noticed the panels were covered in a thick layer of two days worth of dust. I grabbed a dirty tshirt and wiped them off. The yeti was back to full charge within two hours. Luckily there wasn't a cloud in the sky at the time. It has a meter on the front that shows a bar for each 20%. The 20% was solid and the 40% was flashing, which meant it was somewhere between 20 and 40. In just two hours it was back to full, while still running the fan and charging Juju's ipad. If anyone was ever considering goalzero stuff, it's the shit.

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I'm basically picturing what you want to build as a homemade, freestanding version of that first one I posted, which is more or less why I posted it to begin with.

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'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
'14 Chebby Silverado, 4x4
'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
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Motorcycles: '14 HD FLHTCU, '92 HD FXRS, '26 HD JD, '02 Suzuki DRZ400, '56 Cushman Eagle, '48 Simplex ServiCycle, '72 Honda MiniTrail50, '81 Yamaha YR250, Probably some other stuff
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 Post subject: Re: J4L Vamper Thread
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:46 pm 
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kennedy wrote:
I'm basically picturing what you want to build as a homemade, freestanding version of that first one I posted, which is more or less why I posted it to begin with.


Sort of. The concept in my head based on that one. I had eyeballed that 'foxwing' one two years ago when I was planning the same thing for the Excursion, and had my Warrior Products rack from the jeep mounted onto the top of it.

However, The one in my head doesn't swing out sideways. When we are driving to the show it will look like a rack with the rear two 'arms' front to back on the roof, and the three side 'arms' laying like cross bars from the drivers side to the passenger side. Then when we park and setup, the three side bars hinge along the passenger side, straight up and over, to rest against a bar that keeps them at a slight angle up and out. Then the two that go over the rear will hinge at the rear, swing straight up, and over, and rest at a slight angle up and out. Depending on how far out and around we want to go, the van is long enough that I could have the rear bars 8' or so, and if I need, I can double the side bars so that they fold out off of the roof, and then fold out again for extra length.

If it works out the way I see it in my head, any rain will run down from the ends of the arms, toward the driver's side of the van, and run off that way, rather than pool up between the arms.

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 Post subject: Re: J4L Vamper Thread
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'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works, yeah, still have those parts.
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A sweet lawn mower
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