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 Post subject: First Step down the Diesel Swap Path
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:52 pm 
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I've taken my first step down the Diesel Swap path.
I have been talking about it for quite some time, but now, I own a Diesel Donor.

1993 GMC Vandura 3500 Utility VAN 6.2L Diesel 1 ton

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It is a 1993 GMC Vandura 3500 Utility VAN powered by a 6.2L Diesel and backed by a 4L80 tranny.

[you]The PROs[/you]
• 1993 was the last year for the 6.2L Diesel and should have all the refinements/updates/upgrades for a factory 6.2.
Such as, modern real main seal, serpentine belt system, updated DB2 injector pump, etc..
• VAN Diesels are different than Truck/Blazer/'burb motors as they have different exhaust manifolds, water pump inlets, other smaller items
• Because this 4L80 was behind a 6.2, it has a stand alone computer and are easy to rebuild!
• Suppose to run 'great' (we'll see, I hope it does)
• The Mirrors, large fuel tank(?) and 16" load range E tires will go on my J20.
• As the 14 bolt rearend is too wide for my Wag, I might could sell it to recoup some of my cost.
• It was cheap!

[you]The CONs[/you]
• It's 340 miles from me. (time)
• It has 197,753 miles on the clock, but I've been told that if a 6.2l has been taken care of, that should be okay with this many miles.
Being that is a cargo van, I am hoping these are highway miles.
• It's 4L80 slips bad, but can lot drive (tranny rebuild $$$)
• I need to trailer it or flat tow it home (gas $$$)
My plans are to flat tow it if I can build some frame connectors (see my post in the Trailers and Tow Rigs Forum)
• I need to find a place to park it while I pull the drivetrain out (I need to be good neighbor) (space)

My goal is to make my '86 Grand Wagoneer a DD to replace my ailing '99 Grand Cherokee (WJ).
My WJ gets approx 18 on the highway (I may have gotten 20 once) and about 15-16 in town.
It is my desire to get as good if not better MPG with a larger vehicle while using cheaper fuel.
I love Jeeps, but my WJ is one Jeep I really do not like! Grrrr!!
Besides, my Waggie and its 4" lift kit is way kewler than my WJ would ever be!

This is a long term project that I will work on a little at a time.
My budget is very limited for such hobbies.
I will most certainly will be asking many more questions and post pics as I go along.

If my WJ get any worse, which I am sure it will, I may accelerate this project.
It really depends on which is cheaper to fix at the time.

Today, it's a wash, about the same amount of investment of time and $$$ to either repair the WJ or swap a Diesel into the Wag.
Which should be an indicator of how bad the WJ is.

I'll make another posting with the details and pics of when I go collect it.

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2004 KIA Optima (wife 's DD)
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (my DD)
1993 GMC 3500 extended length cargo van, 6.2L Diesel powered.
1982 J10 - current project, replacement AMC 360 sitting in the engine bay.
1981 J20 - stock with a super kewl commercial flat bed (stored, long term Diesel dually project)


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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:31 pm 
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Awsome :tu2:

Not to mention there is probably $200-300 in scrap metal there with the van body and frame, than again, it looks to be in descent shape, so maybe you could part it out for even more $$$

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When your ready to sell the WJ let me know. :tu2:

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what the conclusion to this?

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Wish List: some sort of scangauge, muffler & CAT delete, Walbro fuel pump & marine fuel filter, Feed the Beast mod (have fittings already)
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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:58 pm 
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Gump01 wrote:
what the conclusion to this?

As I was laid off shortly after Labor Day, so this project is dead for now.
I have the Van stored along with with my Wagoneer.
I may end up selling one or both vehicles.

My current project is my 1982 J10 that I wrecked after picking it up and driving 50 miles.
It will replace my WJ, which I also may sell.
I dunno what the future holds for me.

Edited for poor grammar.

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2004 KIA Optima (wife 's DD)
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (my DD)
1993 GMC 3500 extended length cargo van, 6.2L Diesel powered.
1982 J10 - current project, replacement AMC 360 sitting in the engine bay.
1981 J20 - stock with a super kewl commercial flat bed (stored, long term Diesel dually project)


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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:13 am 
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The PIG Smith wrote:
Gump01 wrote:
what the conclusion to this?

As I was laid shortly after Labor Day, so this project is dead for meow.
I have the Van stored along with with my Wagoneer.
I may end up selling one or both vehicles.

My current project is my 1982 J10 that I wrecked after picking it up and driving 50 miles.
It will replace my WJ, which I also may sell.
I dunno what the future holds for me.



i see the problem.. you havent been laid since shortly after Labor day.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:24 pm 
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The PIG Smith wrote:
Gump01 wrote:
what the conclusion to this?

As I was laid shortly after Labor Day, so this project is dead for meow.
I have the Van stored along with with my Wagoneer.
I may end up selling one or both vehicles.

My current project is my 1982 J10 that I wrecked after picking it up and driving 50 miles.
It will replace my WJ, which I also may sell.
I dunno what the future holds for me.



i see the problem.. you havent been laid since shortly after Labor day.



i noticed that too but i wasnt gonna say it... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: First Step down the Diesel Swap Path
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:31 pm 
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Where are you with this project? I started tearing into my 88 waggy and I am thinking about all the options I can find for doing a possible engine swap.


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 Post subject: Re: First Step down the Diesel Swap Path
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:24 pm 
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any updates on this?

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